Retired LEO/Rangemaster, Glock armorer, pistol instructor, Endowment NRA member. Hmmm, I use the .40 cavity and get pretty consistent 4.5gn drops with Titegroup. The larger permanent cavity may lead to faster blood loss. 124g berrys over 3.9g of titegroup 1.149 OAL. Brian now competes in both the PRS and NRL Pro series. Obligatory start low and work your way upSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk, Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. But we're just a free cock punch away from finding out how badass you really are. Soon I got a lot more comfortable as I did it a lot. I shot a lot of Sta-Ball 6.5 and it worked well beyond expectations. We believe the 2nd Amendment is best defended through grass-roots organization, education, and advocacy centered around individual gun owners. I shoot X-treme plated at 4.1 grains. Titegroup: 0.356" 1.100" 3 . An avid shooter and outdoorsman, George takes pride in the quality custom rifles that G.A. On 1/7/2020 at 8:30 PM, looking4reloadingdeals said. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Wish i could find it again. Starting at mid range up to max. 2.8 gr. Here is what I have to work with and have used a combination of 3 books, 3 magazines, and self-reported loads from the interwebs. and seated them to 1.150" as best as I recall. I was intrigued with 3-Gun since, as a police officer, I relied on all three platforms at work. Hodgdon Titegroup: Quest for the Perfect 9mm Hand Load Part 10 As it says on bottle, a little goes a long way.. As an fyi, stay away from the 147gr berrys with titegroup. If you can't find a properly developed published load for that combination, do yourself a favor: Call Hodgdon, and ask them for the specific load data. Maximum loads from Sierra: 115 gn bullets: Titegroup - 3.6 gn - 1100 fps. Brian moved back to Idaho, where he completed his bachelors degree in Business Finance at Albertsons College of Idaho. You cannot paste images directly. There aint nothin like the smell of burnt gunpowder in the mornin. Boris_La . All but 2-3 of those are with handloadedammo. I have loaded 38 spl with 5.4 grains with a 125g bullet. Next, plated bullets have tradionally been loaded using cast lead data. If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for aNES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over. Thanks for the input everyone! Loading is always at your own risk. That is all the negatives about it, it shoots just fine, its very economical and its just fine with accuracy. I've been shooting 4.0 grains of Titegroup with Berry's 124gr. After serving his country, George spent 20 years serving his community as a police officer. Does anyone have a link to somewhere with this info? Ryan earned a Bachelors of Science in Chemistry and Plastics Engineering as well as a Masters of Science in Engineering Technologies. For over 25 years, he has worked in the firearms industry in product development, working and consulting with small arms manufacturing and related products. This is a flattened spherical powder. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! JavaScript is disabled. RN for about 10 years with excellent results in my Glocks and STI pistols. You accidentally load this into a rifle, or a larger pistol cartridge, its super dangerous. I didn't think 4.5 grains was a max load either, because on the Titegroup container it says that for 115gr Speer GDHP max load is 4.8 gr. 2019 Alabama Precision Long Range Challenge 5th, 2021 Alabama Precision Long Range Classic 3rd. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. Im loading either 115gr or 125gr HP. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Close w/ TG can be problematic. The Wester #1 and Sierra #7 Manuals have 9mm +P data. Most manuals stop at 147 grains, though Hodgdon and Vihtavuori have data for 150 grain bullets. After starting a life and career in Tulsa, she pursued barrel racing until she found 3-Gun in 2009. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. The 9mm Makarov and 9mm Luger velocities of 1,000 fps and 1,100 fps respectively were quite respectable, especially in the short-barreled SIG SAUER P365. is 1.150" with Hornandy bullets. Hardware Reloading 9mm load for 124gr with Titegroup G-Lo Jan 11, 2015 G-Lo Rating - 100% 8 0 0 Joined Jul 22, 2012 Messages 588 Likes 38 Jan 11, 2015 #1/18 Hey all- I wanted to ask you guys what have you liked for 9mm 124gr plated bullets using Titegroup. For more information, go towww.P65Warnings.ca.gov. Diannas also won the 2015 NRA World Shooting Championship Ladies title. Nov 7, 2015. Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. Titegroup I use 4 gr @ 1.130". I remember seeing something similar here long time back. This powder, like other very fast pistol powders, are not good for higher velocity ammunition and really only good for budget shooting ammo, competitions, or standard pressure ammo. I dont remember my powder charger right off the top of my head. When we say same bullet, same case, same primer, what we mean is each case/bullet/primer is weighed . He play trumpet in the Junior High Band and I am an honor roll student at St. Pats. He has also put together the first online Precision Rifle Training series of its kind, gaining viewers from all over the world on the JC Steel Targets website. After this I would consider most all of the load data above close enough to start load development with. JavaScript is disabled. Todd is also a sought-after firearms instructor for military, law enforcement, and competitive shooters around the world. 100% of all my handloads are done withHodgdonbrands. For very low charge weights the opening is not big enough to constantly fill the volume resulting in very erratic metering. Maybe Ill do another test with the chrono 10ft away and see if I get any difference in results, thanks. I am really enjoying reloading 45 ACP on my Lee classic loader. He still serves the NKCPD as a Range Officer volunteer today. I use titegroup for 9mm using the Lee charge disk on my turret press. This year my NRL Hunter has been with H-1000 and its incredible! The terrain in Southern Idaho often requires a hunter to be able to take shots at 400 yards and well beyond. JavaScript is disabled. Keyboards and steering wheels bring out the absolute worst in people. I want to be safe. Former lead pilot of the Blue Angels John Foley has reached been in contact along with Remington Mcbee and several others. What's the difference between the Berry's plated bullets and FMJ? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. A devoted husband and father, Jake has formal degrees in sports medicine and youth ministry. In her off time, Regina writes for many publications in both print and digital mediums, trains other shooters, and mentors several up-and-coming female competitors in the precision rifle discipline. Look at the large picture below, you can see, a normal load barely fills the case, its way down in there. I dont plan on stopping anytime soon and this year is scheduled to be as busy as any while shooting 4 different series. He took his first turkey and mule deer at age 6 and his first bull elk at age 9. Jake travels the country shooting, directing precision rifle matches, and teaching precision rifle classes. Lee, Lyman, Hodgdon, Hornady, all sorts of manuals have data. Hodgton indicates you can go to 4.1. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. Depending upon the cartridge overall length. I use Titegroup in my sig p320. Load two according to the new data for the 124gr XTP has an OAL 1.140 with a power range of 3.6 to 4.1 grains that would make this unsafe. My brother gave me some Titegroup. Hollow points may be shorter so COAL may vary some. I have an old Lee maual, but it doesn't have any info on Titegroup. Those who would emasculate Americans by denying them the right to bear arms are guilty of aiding and abetting evil when it strikes. Just In the 2019 season, he will compete in twelve two-day national matches and 15 regional matches across the country, totaling 4,170 precision hand-loaded match rounds burning roughly 131,355 grains (18.75 pounds) of Varget in matches alone. They're mostly for use in an M11/9 submachinegun but they work fine in a S&W Shield also. Feb 27, 2020. Shes also the co-director of her local club, the AZ LRPRS, assisting in facilitating monthly matches throughout the year. As of 2014, Ryan and Dianna have become full time hunters and competitors, focusing most predominately on 3-Gun. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Brian Neace grew up in Southern Idaho in the Snake River Plain, surrounded by miles and miles of high desert to the north and bordered on the south by public wilderness. Dianna has been highlighted by the NRA in American Warrior, the Washington Post and NRA Women. Working and enjoying the outdoors were just a normal part of day to day life. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Is this not a safe load? I used data for 115gr FMJ because I thought that's what the Berry's bullets were. Load at your own risk. He harvested his first turkey and whitetail deer at age 5 and completed his turkey grand slam by age 11. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. In addition, she is also an outdoor writer and photographer, as well as a national seminar speaker. I found anything much lower to be too weak. Her assignments included Patrol, Street Crimes, Narcotics, and Gangs. I'm hoping this data may help some others that are looking for some data with Titegroup powder. Anything between 3.6 and 4.0 should work fine. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. 9mm Luger / 9mm Parabellum Ball-Type Handloads. Nuff said. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. #1 As a beginner reloader, I'm looking for Titegroup load data for 9mm for 115 grains FMJ. There have been some top 10 ELR finishes as well but I dont remember the specifics. Second Media Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. My goal was to find a load that worked well is all my 9MMs with differing barrel lengths, rifling, etc. Upload or insert images from URL. Posted by Donald H Nolen on Sep 26th 2022. was 1146fps. In just five years, he has earned an impressive shooting resume with consistent top finishes at national level events. They are impressed by the light recoil and how cheap it is compared to buying new AA shells for practice or matches. He retired from the North Kansas City Police Department after tours through Patrol Division and the K-9 Narcotics Unit, with additional duties as the Department Armorer, SRT Unit Sniper, and Range Officer/Instructor. I load 115gr Berry's plated at 1.125" with 4.5gr of Titegroup. I would like a lighter load for practicenothing too hot. By 2011, she sold her farm and all of her horses to focus on 3-Gun and the 2nd Amendment. Ryan and Dianna continue to not only compete, but train and film all over the country. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. More details in the thread in Tech Support for those who are interested. If you work from the max COL until they feed from the magazine and chamber correctly, you should find your ideal COL. My standard load is 124gr. Sign up to get updates and access to exclusive promotions. 3 grains? Titegroup is a fantastic powder for 9mm and .45ACP. A licensed Montana Professional Outfitter and Guide freelance writer, his articles and photographs have been featured in magazines including Outdoor Life, American Hunter, American Rifleman, Field and Stream. Me thinks not, but I could be wrong. C.O.A.L. behind a 115gr. Your link has been automatically embedded. They are snappy, but fun to shoot. Snake River PRS club has become his pride and joy with a dedication to growing the sport by recruiting and supporting new and youth shooters. The Lee second edition manual shows 115gr jacketed has 4.8gr max at 1.125 oal for 1158fps. This powder is very popular. BrianEnos.com That's why when I figured out that my previous loads were unsafe I called Berry's to get correct info. 1 - 4 of 4 Posts. Its makes your gun a somewhat heat machine. Upgrade efforts paused for now. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk No issues there. I always set up my chrono at 10ft from the muzzle. Warning! Unique. His last three years of service were spent at the 1st Marine Division Scout Sniper School as the Primary Marksmanship Instructor. Nuts accurate. I really enjoy the community as well as the sport. The loads highlighted in yellow are those that I found work best for me. Todd is a competitive shooter and firearms instructor. Shellholders: Lee #19 I use tight group for 9mm. The google sheet has been updated for those interested in the difference or who want to reference the sheet. Makes 900fps out of my G17. He is a four-time World Champion, 13-time National Champion, the only Triple Crown winner in Action Shooting Sports and has 600+ (and counting) local and regional shooting competitions. We continue to prioritize our shipments to our traditional sales channels to maximize powder availability at retailers. In 1999, George opened GA Precision after apprenticing with three gunsmiths. Brian spent three years in Spokane as a Zag until his baseball career was cut short by a tragic plane accident that took the lives of his parents and younger sister. A couple months later, Zach shot USAYESS competition in Grand Island. I used 4.5 grains of Titegroup with a 115 grain Berry's FMJ bullet and an OAL of 1.125 to 1.130. You need to get teh double disc kit. It's the cheapest and most available powder for 9mm in my area. In 2016, she plans to lead a delegate of women to Capitol Hill in an effort to give legislators a face to put with gun owners. The current Lyman manual (49th Edition) does not have load data for anything heavier than 147 grains, but older manuals do. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. Thanks guys. FYI, when you think about it..even the amount of crimp can/will/could affect things. It's for practice, not for competition. As a rule though, i try to keep it at the distance specified by the chrono brands i`m using. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Hodgdon on line data is a good place to look. HP and RN load data are practically interchangeable since you should be working up from the minimum anyways. Current Oregon State Police Background Check Queue Status As Countdown To Measure 114 Vote Approaches. /wp-content/uploads/2016/08/HODGDON_LOGO_DARK.png, https://hodgdon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/titegroup_1_lb.jpg. Phillip is a 10-year Marine Corps veteran having served his whole career in the Scout Sniper community. Sorry for posting so many times in a row but I just got some new information. A lead bullet is a lead bullet as long as were talking a medium hardness. His proven expertise in firearm manipulation and shooting techniques has enhanced the skills of countless individuals and agencies. THR Group Project - PISTOL - Advanced Reloading Concepts and Discussions. There simply isn't much load data for the super-heavy 9mm bullets. They are calibrated at/for specified distances. In Brians first full season, he achieved several top ten finishes, two regional match wins, and a 20thplace overall finish in the National Rifle League. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. Paste as plain text instead, If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Hope this helps some others develop some loads. Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. Berry's RN plated, 4.0gr Titegroup 1.143" OAL No issues running in STI Spartan, Glock 26,19,17 & 34 or my 9mm AR I put together with a NES YHM lower. Dianna currently competes in the role of Captain for Team Benelli. We will pass. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. In Pistols and Revolvers.. Reloading is a personal responsibility and you must start low and work up and NEVER ASSUME. You are using an out of date browser. Don't ask me why the maximum charge for Titegroup is higher with the 125 gn bullets. Used Titegroup and a variety of different weight and mfg bullets. I wonder why the difference. I can't seem to find the load data for 115gr FMJ w/Titegroup powder online or in the Lyman 49th manual. First reloading experience was disappointing until I learned the process and started making very consistent ammo. Its no wonder so many people love this powder for their economical loads, its cheap AND accurate. Great powder, would recommend it to anyone shooting & reloading. In the last several years I have really focussed on the PRS, ELR, and NRL Hunter. I`m using 3.8 gr for the plated, and 4.2 gr for the JHP. YMMV. I am gonna give it a try. and 8 lb. Some flake powders have a wider range and they need it because they meter poorly. I will be shooting mostly target at the range, 150-200 rounds per visit. Can't keep enough at the house. Started at 3.8 but it would not cycle my guns correctly so had to up it. It's the cheapest and most available powder for 9mm in my area. Zach started attending national shoots in 2018, including Junior Worlds, Junior Olympics Nationals, and USAYESS Nationals. She recently took on the role of Southwest Regional Director for the Precision Rifle Series. And how are you metering 3.3gr? Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, training, shows, accessories, classifieds, and more! In my time I have worked on improving myself to take it as high as I can. TiteGroup is too fast burning to be a good universal powder. A forum community dedicated to Carolina firearm owners and enthusiasts. A lot of this powder fits in a case, over 10 grains, easily. My name is Robert Brantley and I have been obsessed with precision rifle since 2007. Reply Quote. All bullets were taper crimped as a separate step in the handloading . This made me wonder if it is a velocity issue, or a powder charge below 3.7gr issue since all these loads are for the same bullets. Hailing from the Kansas City-area, Jaclyn is a rifle shooter specializing in precision rifle shooting. What type of a load are you attempting to develope? Make an introduction to Jake and youll instantly receive a big grin and firm handshake. In 2016, Phillip was nominated for Scout Sniper Instructor of the Year for his meticulous instruction that resulted in institutional changes in the training of Marine Scout Snipers in both formal schools and unit level training. I have the Hornady manual, but nothing about Titegroup in the manual for 9mm. So you are saying you found data specificly for Berry's plated & TG? Thanks for your patience. Powder is generally +/- 0.1 gr as it dropped using a Hornady powder drop on my Dillon xl650(although usually right at the listed charge). I could manually measure amounts in the middle of the range, but I'd rather use the AutoDisk, which has cavities with volumes corresponding to the edges of the recommended range. 125 gn bullets: Titegroup - 3.8 gn - 1100 fps. In addition to shooting, Zach plays plays baseball, basketball, football, and track & field. Dianna Muller earned a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice/Psychology from University of Central Missouri and retired from the Tulsa Police Department after 22 years of service. plated or jacketed bullet at 1150 fps minimum came closest to the ideal load. containers. Today, it is a popular military and law enforcement handgun cartridge. When I first learned it was long before Algore had invented the net. Each week the Schearer family will hunt with a variety of weapons from archery, muzzleloader and shotgun to centerfire rifles and will not only focus on the hunt, but will be filled with educational tips to make the viewers better sportsmen and sportswomen. looking4reloadingdeals "Given adequate penetration, a larger diameter bullet will have an edge in wounding effectiveness. JavaScript is disabled. I have found charge weights that fall in the allowable range. Phillip has attended all follow-on formal Scout Sniper courses, having graduated with honors and recognized as High Shooter from all. If I don't like it, I will give it to my buddy After working up a lighter load for my daughter I ended up with 124 grain plated bullet and 4.4 grains of Titegroup.